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Move Baldwin Forward Coalition launches

This and Robin Bayer involved? The drain is circling on this coalition.

December 15, 2010 at 8:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

School board closes rural elementary schools by 5-2 vote

Maxine, while I may agree with you on the Baldwin City Signal needing news, I will correct you on your attempt to blame the bond's approval on the Baker students. That just didn't happen. When the Signal had an editor, this editorial appeared.

Debunking ‘Baker vote’ myth
Our View Editorial
September 3, 2009, 1:00 a.m.

We’ve heard references to the “Baker University vote” over the years, but not quite like this past year when Baldwin City voters approved the $22.9 million bond issue for the Baldwin School District.

The measure passed by a slim margin, 2,087-1,775, and opponents of the bond issue have been quick to blame the “Baker vote” for its passage. It’s always easy to blame something on someone else.

But in this case, it just doesn’t hold water.

Voting data from the Baldwin City precincts was examined last week to see just how many Baker students voted in November. That was done by looking at addresses and names to determine locations and people who were Baker students.

The list totaled 182 names that were verified. The bond issue passed by 312 votes. Even if all 182 of those Baker students voted “yes” on the bond issue and those votes were thrown out, the measure still passes.

Although we’re not surprised by that, we’re glad to be able to know that it wasn’t the “Baker vote” that made the difference. We’ve always held the view that while Baker is always a factor, it doesn’t determine an election’s outcome.

Why did only 182 out of more than 900 Baker students vote here? It may look like a poor turnout, but it’s more likely because the vast majority of those students voted in their hometowns, either personally or by absentee ballot.

Why would that be when that election was supposedly the “coming out” of the younger vote because of the race for president? Easy. If those out-of-state voters wanted their vote to count in putting Barack Obama in the White House, they certainly wouldn’t vote in Republican-dominated Kansas. In-state students obviously had more interest in the races from their areas.

Of course, the review of the ballot data can’t reveal how those students voted or even if they went further down the ballot after checking off Obama. There have been claims made that students were urged at various gatherings to “vote yes” on the bond issue. We don’t know how much of that went on, if any, but we also know a thing or two about young adults. Tell them to do one thing and they’ll likely do the opposite. We don’t know if that’s the case here, but it could be. And it doesn’t matter too much since only 182 of them voted anyway.

For those who need more convincing, do you recall the spring election for mayor and city council where mayoral candidate George McCrary predicted victory for him because he was going to take the “Baker vote” and even appointed a Baker student as his campaign manager?

Result: Ken Wagner 422 votes, McCrary 231.

December 15, 2010 at 7:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

School board closes rural elementary schools by 5-2 vote

Yes, well put. You can kiss my rural *ss, too. I have believed in these schools for many years. They are great. No doubt. But I'm afraid the economics of our time has forced their clossure. I understand. I think it makes sense although I know there are vast amounts of money to be saved in administrative costs. We still have to do that. It's all we have left. So, administrators throughout the district, kissmy rural *ss.

December 14, 2010 at 8:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

City council OKs developing preliminary plans for library expansion

He was the president of the library board years ago, but quit. Depends on who you believe as to the reasons why and his behavior when he quit.

December 14, 2010 at 4:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Move Baldwin Forward Coalition launches

I'm afraid you're right, ksrush. If Bayer is involved, this is doomed to fail. Kiss of death.

December 14, 2010 at 8:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Work progresses on performing arts center; crews aim for summer finishing date

And that bond money will pay for the utilities and upkeep of these new facilities? No. Heating and cooling the performing arts center will be expensive. That comes out of the district budget so it is a part of the problem.

December 8, 2010 at 7:46 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Work progresses on performing arts center; crews aim for summer finishing date

Thank God, Torch, you finally posted. I thought you were dead or something since you hadn't posted to this. I don't often agree with you, but I do on this one. That thing is monstrous. Still can't believe the voters passed that bond issue with this thing on it.

December 6, 2010 at 5:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

City council agrees conditionally to help investors save downtown building

Nice try, Robin. You didn't answer the question about how the city has stacked us with the highest mill levy in the county. Let the county sell this property. Don't let your cronies stiff us for all this money with a city handout. Don't make it worse, idiot.

November 21, 2010 at 11:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

City council agrees conditionally to help investors save downtown building

Cute, Torch. I have to wonder about you. The only real contribution you ever gave to this site was paragraph=friend. I always agreed with you. It's been getting out of hand. What's wrong with you, dude? Taxed too much? It's for the kids, dude.

November 20, 2010 at 8:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

City council agrees conditionally to help investors save downtown building

Agreed, Robin. He has left the city a mess. Why did that happen? How can someone get away with not paying taxes? I'd like for you to share that with us all because you have saddled us with the highest mill levy in the county. You mean I don't have to pay my taxes? Sweet.

As for the "historic" building, I know it was a tough decision. I hoped you would have set aside your bias for Dave Hill and the boys and do what's right for Baldwin City. For a change.

November 20, 2010 at 7:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )