Obviously, we just have to agree to disagree, and hope that maybe, just maybe, our elected officials, appointed officials, and hired city officials can get all their procedures and codes straightened out.
I couldn't agree more with you on the point about professional standards, and the kind of businesses that we ALL want to attract to Baldwin City.
I guess we will just have to disagree on who we think was in the wrong here.
Regardless of who was disrespecting who, all of this should have been handled differently. In public was NOT the right place. I can only hope that it will be in the future.
I am NOT a government employee, but my hat off to all of those people that work hard everyday to deliver the services that allow our city to run. And for that matter to the Council members to spend their own time to serve.
My frustration is with 2 councilmen who are there to represent the citizens of this fair city and uphold ALL the rules and regulations thereof. Yet these 2 seem to want to circumvent the very process they are there to uphold. If they are frustrated with the processes, as many obviously are, they are the ones with the ability to fix them, not just go around them.
The meeting where the double frontage lot was discussed was Tuesday night, not Monday night.
And there are only 3 ways into firetree. 1 out to Ames via Crimson. 1 out to 6th street 1 out the 400 rd.
2 of these go past the new store.
Thanks for being so informed of a neighborhood you obviously DON'T live in.
Let me just say this again. I am NOT an angry neighbor. Everything is worked out, and I personally can't wait for the new store to open so that I don't have to go to Lawrence to get items that the current store isn't big enough to shelve.
If you had read my comments, and NOT read into my comments. What I was talking about was the conduct of 2 council members in an open meeting.
nothing negative at all about the new store or the people that own and run it. I am ALL for the success of this city, and the businesses in it. I am just a little frustrated by people like you who are always trying to find fault with people and actions that you don't necessarily understand.
see, you guys are just not getting the point here.
I am NOT unhappy with the hardware store, or anything about it at this stage of the game.
Tuesday night everything was worked out, and as far as I am concerned, everyone is happy about it.
If you really understood my frustration it is NOT with the hardware store. It is with the conduct of the 2 councilmen in an open meeting. that is all.
As was said Tuesday night. Who would want to buy anything from a hardware store that looks like a bank. I personally think everything will look great as approved by the commission.
“After a lengthy discussion, the motion was made to do that, but it failed 3-2. Council Members Ken Wagner and Doyle Jardon voted for it, but Council Members Ted Brecheisen Jr., Tony Brown and Amy Cleavinger voted against it.”
Do the people that right this stuff not READ their own paper??
25 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
ibelieveinmapleleaf,
I am NOT a city employee.
NEVER have been. Don't plan on EVER being one.
Have you?? Have you ever had more than one boss that expects to have their directions followed?
I doubt it. As you have said, until you have been there, don't criticize them.
25 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
joco transplant??
you really have no idea who I am do you.
I grew up in a much smaller town than even this one.
Nice try, but you guessed wrong again Jayhawker1.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
no bluff was called.
there was not bluff to be called.
Obviously, we just have to agree to disagree, and hope that maybe, just maybe, our elected officials, appointed officials, and hired city officials can get all their procedures and codes straightened out.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
kermit,
I couldn't agree more with you on the point about professional standards, and the kind of businesses that we ALL want to attract to Baldwin City.
I guess we will just have to disagree on who we think was in the wrong here.
Regardless of who was disrespecting who, all of this should have been handled differently. In public was NOT the right place. I can only hope that it will be in the future.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
Kermit,
you couldn't be more wrong.
I am NOT a government employee, but my hat off to all of those people that work hard everyday to deliver the services that allow our city to run. And for that matter to the Council members to spend their own time to serve.
My frustration is with 2 councilmen who are there to represent the citizens of this fair city and uphold ALL the rules and regulations thereof. Yet these 2 seem to want to circumvent the very process they are there to uphold. If they are frustrated with the processes, as many obviously are, they are the ones with the ability to fix them, not just go around them.
THAT is my frustration.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
You are right, that was another subject that shouldn't have been brought into this discussion.
Here is my original statement.
“So is this serving as the official announcement of of the council meeting for 4pm Friday??
What about the extremely poor conduct of both councilmen Wagner and Jardon?
Nice to see that the reporter on this story was willing to tell the WHOLE story.”
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
As was stated on Tuesday night.
There was lots of miscommunication by ALL parties in the process.
I am confident that the Planning commission, City staff and Council will work together to fix everything that went wrong with this case.
Rant all you want, as far as I am concerned this subject is closed.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
BTW Jayhawker1,
The meeting where the double frontage lot was discussed was Tuesday night, not Monday night.
And there are only 3 ways into firetree.
1 out to Ames via Crimson.
1 out to 6th street
1 out the 400 rd.
2 of these go past the new store.
Thanks for being so informed of a neighborhood you obviously DON'T live in.
Let me just say this again. I am NOT an angry neighbor. Everything is worked out, and I personally can't wait for the new store to open so that I don't have to go to Lawrence to get items that the current store isn't big enough to shelve.
If you had read my comments, and NOT read into my comments. What I was talking about was the conduct of 2 council members in an open meeting.
nothing negative at all about the new store or the people that own and run it. I am ALL for the success of this city, and the businesses in it. I am just a little frustrated by people like you who are always trying to find fault with people and actions that you don't necessarily understand.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
see, you guys are just not getting the point here.
I am NOT unhappy with the hardware store, or anything about it at this stage of the game.
Tuesday night everything was worked out, and as far as I am concerned, everyone is happy about it.
If you really understood my frustration it is NOT with the hardware store. It is with the conduct of the 2 councilmen in an open meeting. that is all.
As was said Tuesday night. Who would want to buy anything from a hardware store that looks like a bank. I personally think everything will look great as approved by the commission.
24 April 2008
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n0zpe (Anonymous) says…
“After a lengthy discussion, the motion was made to do that, but it failed 3-2. Council Members Ken Wagner and Doyle Jardon voted for it, but Council Members Ted Brecheisen Jr., Tony Brown and Amy Cleavinger voted against it.”
Do the people that right this stuff not READ their own paper??
The vote failed. It was NOT tabled.