Because the city/community citizens want to use it in that fashion, outside of school hours and for non-school constituents? Makes sense to me that they help out with opening it up, at the very least.
Mr. Dorathy hoped it could be used that way, they ran into some obstacles, and he is working it out. For you to say the City has no responsibility in this issue, and it is entirely up to the District and Dorathy, shows what a complete ass you are. The City isn't responsible for community shelters? Get real.
Here are the facts, plain and simple. The bond issue was passed before this notion of the auditorium ever being a shelter came about. So, the money was spent regardless.
As it turns out, Mr. Dorathy found significant savings if we had FEMA help pay for the majority of it, and we turned it into a shelter. So, we got savings such that some of that bond money allocated to the building went towards other projects.
Furthermore, it was never promised to be a "community" shelter, only a shelter for faculty/staff/students during school hours, with the hope being that maybe it could also double as a community shelter. If you find a promise from Mr. Dorathy or the District saying otherwise, in writing, please post it.
Finally, I understand that all of our taxes go into various pools and help pay for various things, but you seem to be unable to understand that for each split, there is a percentage involved. Sometimes we pay a higher percentage, say when we pay for the bond issue, and sometimes we benefit by paying a much lower percentage, say for the FEMA help on the auditorium, because the pool funding it is much larger than just Baldwin City residents. A much larger population is contributing, therefore our individual cost is significantly reduced. Can you grasp that concept?
Kermit, I don't think you and I are on opposite sides of this issue. You don't like the volunteer(s) option, fine. Let's just do it Dorathy's way. I am fine with that. I am also fine with it not being open at all to the public. But, if enough people do want this to work, I don't think the City should be off the hook and allowed to be a bystander regarding getting this thing done. They need to cooperate, collaborate, whatever the case may be, just as much as the district is doing.
I tend to agree with hyper on this one. You haven't lived in Kansas very long if you don't realize you will need a tornado shelter at some point and still haven't made preparations. If your preparations are to use the newly build school building, then pressure the city admins to do their part in helping Mr. Dorathy and the district provide you an opportunity for shelter.
To Kermit: Why can't we have a volunteer of some sort? We have volunteer firefighters. There's no need to create a special position or department within the City to open a freaking door during a storm warning.
They did find a way. They are about to make it happen. Please remember, the City was the one who could not "find a way" to get a single officer or fireman to the building during an emergency. So, Mr. Dorathy is looking for ways to get that done. He finds one, offers to pay for 75% of it, and you still blame him? Ridiculous.
I cannot comment on the various street issues you mention as I don't know enough about them.
Oh come on, be real. The dollars are mentioned right in the article. And FEMA paid for 75% of it, after we had already passed the bond issue on it and would have been on the hook for the full amount. Because of this venture, 75% came from the government, yes, but that pool of tax money is the entire US, and therefore the individual amount each Baldwin resident paid might not even reach a dollar. That is a direct savings to the district to do other things, in a very tight economic era.
Finally, yes, the Super's duty is first and foremost to the district students and staff and education of said students. Everything else, including community, is secondary. The community agrees to pay for certain items because they are sending their children there to be educated, but that does not make every district building or facility a community open-source opportunity. Your flawed logic is astounding.
I appreciate Mr. Dorathy thinking outside the box on this issue, and potentially finding a solution for the community and the city. All of you who have bashed him should be singing his praises on at least this one issue. He got the building built, for 75% off, and now he is finding a way to make it useful not just to his school district (which is the only constituent he really had to work for), but to community members as well. This kind of stuff needs to be applauded.
Sounds like Dorathy and the school district would really like for this to be used by the community, but the City Council can't spare one person during an emergency.
What kind of silly rule is it that the doors have to be locked 10 minutes after the warning and until the all clear is sounded? In ten minutes, that last tornado warning was OVER. And we seriously would have to tell a late family, sorry, sit out there and take it? I'm ok with not letting anyone leave until the all clear, but not letting someone in is ridiculous.
They said something very similar to that in the article I linked to above. It wasn't as clear as maybe it could have been, but the way I read it, it was not going to be used in that way anytime in the near future. Article was dated Jan. 26th, I think.
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
Because the city/community citizens want to use it in that fashion, outside of school hours and for non-school constituents? Makes sense to me that they help out with opening it up, at the very least.
March 30, 2012 at 1:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
Mr. Dorathy hoped it could be used that way, they ran into some obstacles, and he is working it out. For you to say the City has no responsibility in this issue, and it is entirely up to the District and Dorathy, shows what a complete ass you are. The City isn't responsible for community shelters? Get real.
March 29, 2012 at 5:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
Here are the facts, plain and simple. The bond issue was passed before this notion of the auditorium ever being a shelter came about. So, the money was spent regardless.
As it turns out, Mr. Dorathy found significant savings if we had FEMA help pay for the majority of it, and we turned it into a shelter. So, we got savings such that some of that bond money allocated to the building went towards other projects.
Furthermore, it was never promised to be a "community" shelter, only a shelter for faculty/staff/students during school hours, with the hope being that maybe it could also double as a community shelter. If you find a promise from Mr. Dorathy or the District saying otherwise, in writing, please post it.
Finally, I understand that all of our taxes go into various pools and help pay for various things, but you seem to be unable to understand that for each split, there is a percentage involved. Sometimes we pay a higher percentage, say when we pay for the bond issue, and sometimes we benefit by paying a much lower percentage, say for the FEMA help on the auditorium, because the pool funding it is much larger than just Baldwin City residents. A much larger population is contributing, therefore our individual cost is significantly reduced. Can you grasp that concept?
March 29, 2012 at 5:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
Kermit, I don't think you and I are on opposite sides of this issue. You don't like the volunteer(s) option, fine. Let's just do it Dorathy's way. I am fine with that. I am also fine with it not being open at all to the public. But, if enough people do want this to work, I don't think the City should be off the hook and allowed to be a bystander regarding getting this thing done. They need to cooperate, collaborate, whatever the case may be, just as much as the district is doing.
March 28, 2012 at 5:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
I tend to agree with hyper on this one. You haven't lived in Kansas very long if you don't realize you will need a tornado shelter at some point and still haven't made preparations. If your preparations are to use the newly build school building, then pressure the city admins to do their part in helping Mr. Dorathy and the district provide you an opportunity for shelter.
To Kermit: Why can't we have a volunteer of some sort? We have volunteer firefighters. There's no need to create a special position or department within the City to open a freaking door during a storm warning.
March 28, 2012 at 2:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
They did find a way. They are about to make it happen. Please remember, the City was the one who could not "find a way" to get a single officer or fireman to the building during an emergency. So, Mr. Dorathy is looking for ways to get that done. He finds one, offers to pay for 75% of it, and you still blame him? Ridiculous.
I cannot comment on the various street issues you mention as I don't know enough about them.
March 27, 2012 at 6:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
Oh come on, be real. The dollars are mentioned right in the article. And FEMA paid for 75% of it, after we had already passed the bond issue on it and would have been on the hook for the full amount. Because of this venture, 75% came from the government, yes, but that pool of tax money is the entire US, and therefore the individual amount each Baldwin resident paid might not even reach a dollar. That is a direct savings to the district to do other things, in a very tight economic era.
Finally, yes, the Super's duty is first and foremost to the district students and staff and education of said students. Everything else, including community, is secondary. The community agrees to pay for certain items because they are sending their children there to be educated, but that does not make every district building or facility a community open-source opportunity. Your flawed logic is astounding.
March 27, 2012 at 6:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin superintendent presents plan to open shelter to residents
I appreciate Mr. Dorathy thinking outside the box on this issue, and potentially finding a solution for the community and the city. All of you who have bashed him should be singing his praises on at least this one issue. He got the building built, for 75% off, and now he is finding a way to make it useful not just to his school district (which is the only constituent he really had to work for), but to community members as well. This kind of stuff needs to be applauded.
March 27, 2012 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin City stands by shelter decision, looks to schedule storm preparedness meeting
Sounds like Dorathy and the school district would really like for this to be used by the community, but the City Council can't spare one person during an emergency.
What kind of silly rule is it that the doors have to be locked 10 minutes after the warning and until the all clear is sounded? In ten minutes, that last tornado warning was OVER. And we seriously would have to tell a late family, sorry, sit out there and take it? I'm ok with not letting anyone leave until the all clear, but not letting someone in is ridiculous.
March 21, 2012 at 10:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Baldwin City mayor says FEMA grant details make city role in community shelter at PAC difficult
They said something very similar to that in the article I linked to above. It wasn't as clear as maybe it could have been, but the way I read it, it was not going to be used in that way anytime in the near future. Article was dated Jan. 26th, I think.
March 12, 2012 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )