Polls

What should the Baldwin School Board do with the two rural elementary schools?

Response Percent Votes
Keep both schools open
 
60% 293
Close both schools
 
36% 176
Close only Marion Springs Elementary School
 
1% 8
Close only Vinland Elementary School
 
1% 5
I have no opinion on this topic
 
0% 4
Total 486

Comments

BigCat 3 years, 12 months ago

I think the silent majority has spoken so far... 73% at the time I am writing this support keeping both schools open, WOW! Are you seeing this Mr. Dorothy? Are you hearing what the people are saying?

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faithjourney 3 years, 12 months ago

I understand why you're upset, but the comment that "the people have spoken", just isn't accurate. Only 99 people have voted in opposition. The better argument seems to be the discrepency in the members of the school board's words vs. their actions. Trust is the issue here.

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BaldwinDad 3 years, 12 months ago

I agree faith this is not even close to being an issue of the community has spoken this is an issue of honesty and stewardship, both of which the School Board and Mr. Dorathy are lacking.

After this poll I would like to see one on how many parents want Mr. Dorathy to resign due to gross mismanagement and lying to his employers.

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Stacy Napier 3 years, 12 months ago

Do you really think if we get rid of him we will get anyone better? Look at who he replaced.

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BaldwinDad 3 years, 12 months ago

True....perhaps we need to look at doing away with the whole system for something better.

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lisagaylesmith 3 years, 11 months ago

Calling for the resignation of Mr. Dorathy is definitely on the agenda of the rural patrons.

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Stacy Napier 3 years, 12 months ago

Yea thats great, but two things. Everyone knows you can vote as many times as you want.

and It's all about the money. If the numbers show it will save us money than do it. Enough of the wastefull spending.

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Truthseeker 3 years, 12 months ago

Only one vote is being reported per computer so even two members of the household can't register two votes.

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Stacy Napier 3 years, 12 months ago

Truth. there are easy ways to vote again and again It's called a proxy. Try it today. It will take your vote.

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lisagaylesmith 3 years, 11 months ago

I can't imagine why anyone would vote twice. That would be dishonest. I don't know too many out here in the rural communities that would try to vote twice. Is that what they are doing in town to get this many votes to close schools?

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StephanieJarvis 3 years, 12 months ago

Wasteful spending? Having feeder schools is wasteful? I would really like to see the spending of all programs and how they all compare before coming to any conclusion that a feeder school is wasteful spending.

As someone who has spent time teaching in the classroom for ages varying from 4th grade all the way to 10th grade, and class sizes as small as 16 to as large as 45, I can tell you DEFINITELY that with younger, elementary aged students, it is imperative that you do everything (as the School Board) to try and offer small class sizes (no larger than 20). Elementary aged children are at the height of their philosophical and logical mental development as they progress through into their teenage years, when these concepts have become more solidified.

Yes, socialization is important, but those group numbers should gradually increase appropriate to their age.

Therefore, this issue is much more important and much more inclusive than just spending. We must keep the development of the children in mind as well. There are other ways to reduce spending by truly evaluating the budget much more inclusively.

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docomom 3 years, 12 months ago

Notwhatyouthink-no, you can't vote more than once per computer...I tried!

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Stacy Napier 3 years, 12 months ago

It's called a proxy. Google it. Why don't you try to vote again today.

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farmerman 3 years, 12 months ago

If enough of the RURAL landowners oppose closing their local schools, they may petition out of the district and take their tax money with them. Then how much money would the district save??

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Stacy Napier 3 years, 12 months ago

Haha nice idea, but I believe that would have to come to a vote and voters in both school districts would have to approve that. I doubt that would happen.

Hey there is always home schooling.

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BaldwinDad 3 years, 12 months ago

If the rural parents and some in town parents choose to home school their kids, the district would lose about $5k a student that leaves and also keep in mind some of those rural kids could go to other districts. While I still think ours would better you piss a person off enough by lying to them they might just switch their kids out of spite.

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BigCat 3 years, 11 months ago

If all the MS and VES students go elsewhere (home schooling, other district, etc) it would cost the school district over $700K. If only have of them leave it would be over $350K. These would both eat up any POTENTIAL savings of closing the schools.

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lisagaylesmith 3 years, 11 months ago

I have heard some of the VES parents are going to go to Eudora, not Baldwin. I have heard a few of the MSE students will go to Lawrence and a few from both schools are looking at homeschooling. Then there are a few kicking around the idea of starting their kids after the headcount on September 21. So their kids will still go to Baldwin to school but the district will not collect $4012 from the state for those pupils. The hiring of an Athletic director shown as a top priority on the screen at the last board meeting has caused some to think of ways to keep the district from realizing as much savings as they hope by killing our little communities. It won't be the same board that has to deal with that mess though as some of the board members who will vote to close schools have said they are not running again.

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Stacy Napier 3 years, 11 months ago

Why would anyone want to send their child to baldwin and not have the district get the money for them. Sure you would be hurting the district money wise, but that would also take it away from your own child.

I guess that is the mentality of the rual parents.

Just like sending your child to Eudora or Lawrence. Maybe you should look at the test results and percent of kids that go on to graduate and continue to college. Baldwin beats out both in average scores. lowest student per teacher and in graduation rate.

Again shows the mentality of those parents.

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BigCat 3 years, 11 months ago

It would require the school board voting to allow them to leave. VES and MS have looked into it. They are tired of being treated like a "stepchild".

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sparky 3 years, 11 months ago

If they ( VES and MS) were somehow able to pass the vote and be able to leave the school district, I for one would do everything in my power to move out of town so I could join that school system. If I was able to move out of 348, I would at least no longer be paying on THREE school bonds at the same time.

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