Polls

Do you think there needs to be a stoplight at the intersection of Eighth St. and U.S. 56 Highway?

Response Percent Votes
Yes
 
54% 52
No
 
45% 44
Total 96

Comments

loosecaboose 4 years, 2 months ago

If you ever try to cross there as I do, you would want it.

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loosecaboose 4 years, 2 months ago

I used the new light this morning. I found out what the yellow flashing light means, at least to one driver. SPEED UP! DRIVE FASTER! SOMETHING MIGHT HINDER YOUR PROGRESS FOR A FEW SECONDS! As soon as the lights came on, I could hear the engine increase its rpms, could see the speed of the pick up increase. The sign says to cross with caution, DO IT!

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sawman 4 years, 2 months ago

I must confess the yellow flashing light didn't convey the intended message to me. Last night I came upon it in the dark and didn't see the young couple wanting to cross until I was making the turn there. Had I been able to see them I would have yielded and stopped but what are the odds the traffic from the other direction would also stop? Seems to me it should be red not yellow. Run down the pedestrian at a cautious slower speed? I don't think this is a safe solution to pedestrians crossing there, a full blown stoplight at the intersection being the only real solution. Change my vote on the poll. I've worked in a orange vest and around orange barrels before and the orange has the same effect on motorists that loosecaboose noted for the yellow, except it also seems to anger people at the same time. Must be the red component in the orange color.

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BaldwinDad 4 years, 2 months ago

I'm not convinced it's needed...allot of recent studies in traffic safety are indicating that a lack of traffic signals and signs actually show to decrease accidents and improve public safety.

I also think the example that Sawman gave while scary was more an issue of poor lighting, I'm not sure a traffic light would help much with that as I have seen tons of people ignore walk/do not walk signs with this attitude of the pedestrian always have the right of way and always assume a vehicle will stop for them.

"Is this the end of the road for traffic lights?" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1533248/Is-this-the-end-of-the-road-for-traffic-lights.html

"Anarchy in the Streets" http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer213.html

"An unassuming Dutch traffic engineer showed that streets without signs can be safer than roads cluttered with arrows, painted lines, and lights. Are we ready to believe him?" http://www.wilsonquarterly.com/article.cfm?aid=1234

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loosecaboose 4 years, 2 months ago

How often do you cross Ames as a pedestrian?

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sawman 4 years, 2 months ago

Who could have thought that the wisdom of Lao-tsu, in the Tao Te Ching, could be applied to traffic safety engineering?

Stop trying to control. Let go of fixed plans and concepts, and the world will govern itself.

The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.

….If you don’t trust the people, you make them untrustworthy.

I had read of the shared space concept and it's successes but dismissed it as unworkable in our self absorbed society. It would be an interesting experiment to remove all traffic signs and controls in Baldwin and see how our population got along.

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TheOnlyGreyghost 4 years, 2 months ago

Absolutely! You try to stop for pedestrians and run the risk of being rear-ended by the oblivious.

Not to mention, the 8th St traffic is heavy enough that if you're on the highway, you run the constant risk of someone cutting you off because they've been waiting 5 minutes to make a left turn off of 8th and they have reached the point where they just decide to go and hope that the highway traffic has good brakes and reflexes.

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BaldwinDad 4 years, 2 months ago

So basically, what your saying the problem is is not the lack of a light but poor and impatient drivers?

I mean in both your examples a light would not fix the problem if someone driving behind you was not paying attention nor would it stop people from cutting you off. Poor drivers are just that poor drivers.

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loosecaboose 4 years, 2 months ago

I am saying the pedestrians need all the help they can get. You seem to be saying everyone needs to be in a hurry, and that everyone else should get out of the way.

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NanCrisp 4 years, 2 months ago

I think "there needs to be" a copy editor on the job at this "newspaper."

Correct the above to read: "Do you think a stoplight is needed at the intersection of Eighth Street and U.S. Highway 56?"

The phrase "there needs to be" is grammatically incorrect and just very sloppy syntax.

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